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Nombre de messages : 454 Date d'inscription : 22/02/2007
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1929 to 1937 Dobro Serial numbers by M.Cass. Note the 1929 to 1937 serial number info is not very accurate. For example I own a Dobro metal body M-62 with the serial number 1832. According to the list below it should be 1930. But no metal body Dobro existed before 1935. So you can see the serial number info below is not 100% reliable and the information below applies mostly to wooden body resonator Dobro guitars. Pleaes keep this in mind. Also I don't have any 1937 to 1942 Dobro serial number info. Serial numbers for metal body Dobros very scarce. Serial numbers are stamped into the top of the peghead. No factory serial number records are available. The numbers below are a general guide, and are not reliable for dating the instrument solely on the serial number.
Number range Year 800 - 1400 1929 1400 - 2000 1930 2000 - 2600 1931 2600 - 3200 1932 3200 - 3900 1933 4000s 1933 (mostly Regal made) 5000 - 5600 1933 (California made) 5700 - 7600 1934-1936 (California made) 8000 - 9900 1936 & 1937 L9000s 1937 (Regal made) A prefix 1936 B prefix or suffix 1931-1932 (most Cyclops wood models) M prefix 1935-1937
No serial number: on 1930s Dobros, this happens a lot, and for no explainable reason.
OMI Dobro Resonator Serial Number. The Dopyera brothers started the OMI company making Dobro style guitars in 1967 under the "Hound Dog" brand name. In 1970 OMI bought the Dobro name and manufacturered their own "Dobro" guitars with the traditional "Dobro" peghead sticker. These 1967 and later Dobros not collectible. In 1998 Gibson bought Dobro.
1967-1974 OMI Dobro: 101 - 401 1967-1970 402 - 712 1971 713 - 1427 1972 1428 - 2296 1973 2297 - 2372 early 1974
1974-1979 OMI Dobro: Y (#)### D configuration. Y is last digit of the year (if this number is "3" it is actually 1974). 3 or 4 numerals in center are instrument ranking for year starting with 101. D is body type: D=wood, B=brass, M=steel or mandolin.
1980-1988 OMI Dobro: 8 (#)### yD configuration. 8 is the decade of manufacture (8=1980s). 2 or 3 or 4 numerals in center are serial number for year. Numeral y before letter is last digit of year. Last character is body type: D=wood, B=metal.
1988-1994 OMI Dobro: A# #### yyD configuration. First letter (and numeral) is style. numerals in center are instrument ranking. yy is last two digits of year. Last character is body type: D=wood, B=metal, H=Hounddog, P=solid peghead.
1995-1997 OMI Dobro: A(A) (x)xxx yy configuration. First letters are style. numerals in center are instrument ranking. yy is last two digits of year year.
1998-current Gibson Dobro: 8 digits ymmddrry configuration First y is last digit of year. mm is month dd is day rr is rank last y is decade.
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dobro. Langue pendue
Nombre de messages : 454 Date d'inscription : 22/02/2007
| Sujet: Re: Dobro/National Numerotation Lun 11 Nov - 11:58 | |
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National Vintage Serial Numbers
National/Valco serial numbers provide the easiest way to find the year for a particular instrument. Serial numbers courtesy of Bob Brozman and his book "National Resonator Instruments", 1993.
Serial Numbers 1927-1935. From 1927 to 1935, Natonal used a different serial number system for each model. On single cone steel body models, the number is stamped on the top of the peghead. The single cone exception is the Style O, which are usually stamped into the body by the endpin.
Serial number on a 1928 Style 1 roundneck tri-cone.
On roundneck Tricone models, the serial number is stamped into the body by the endpin until serial number 2400. On squareneck Tricones, the serial number is stamped into the back of the metal neck near the peghead up until serial number 2400. On all Tricones after serial number 2400, the number is stamped at the top of the peghead.
Note most of the serial numbers provided are from actual instruments. The year of manufacturer was deduced by evaluating catalog specs for the year.
Square Neck Tricones, 1927-1934.
Number range Year ------------ ---- 100 388 1927 393 1136 1928 1139 1886 1929 1891 2294 1930 2301 2571 1931 2601 2682 1932 2833 3315 1933 3323 1934
Round Neck Tricones, 1927-1930.
Number range Year ------------ ---- 0100 0141 1927 0145 0748 1928 0781 01002 1929 01004 1930
Note: round neck Tricones use the S-series numbers after 1930.
1934 Style O "S" series serial number.
S-series: Style O and roundneck Tricones, 1930 to 1934.
Number range Year ------------ ---- S1 S2195 1930 S2145 S2785 1931 S2788 S3991 1932 S4035 S4393 1933 S5001 S6205 1934
Note: S5438 = start of 14 fret Style O instruments.
Tenor Nickel Plated Models.
Range Model Year ------- ----- ---- 100-600 Tricone 1928 600-850 Pear shape 1 cone 1929 850-1400 Guitar shape 1 cone 1929-1934
Mandolin, Ukes.
Range Model Year ------- ----- ---- 100-600 Mandolin 1928-1934 100-400 Uke 1928-1934
Don Models.
Number range Year ------------ ---- X27 X133 1934
Wood body Triolians with serial numbers (1929 only).
Number range Year ------------ ---- 500 1626 1929
Early Metal body Triolians (1929 only).
Number range Year ------------ ---- 0100 0209 1929 (yellow)
1929 bakelite neck Triolian with "A" series serial number.
Bakelite neck Triolians 1929-1930.
Number range Year ------------- ---- A10 A1650 1929 A1651 A1814 1930
Polychrome Triolians 1930-1934.
Number range Year ------------- ---- 0100 0209 1929 (yellow) 1P 2266P 1930-1934, 12 fret Polychrome Triolians. 2267P 2500P 1934, 14 fret Polychrome Triolians.
Walnut Sunburst Triolians 1930-1934.
Number range Year ------------- ---- 1W 1800W 1930 1801W 2550W 1931 2551W 3200W 1932 3201W 3350W 1933, 1934
C-series Green/Gray Duolians 1931-1935.
Number range Year ------------- ---- C1 C6000 1931, 1932 C6001 C7250 1933 C7251 C9700 1934, 1935
E-series Duolians (1934 only).
Number range Year ------------- ---- E7200 E7899 1934
No prefix Duolians 1935-1936.
Number range Year ------------ ---- 899 3769 1935 3770 6750 1936
R series, Sears-Roebuck Duolians (1931 only). Five large drilled areas on coverplate instead of the usually 9.
Number range Year ------------ ---- R1 R600 1931
N prefix (1935 only).
O prefix Duolians (1931 only).
Number range Year ------------ ---- O500 O1750 1931
K prefix El Trovador wood body (1933 only).
Number range Year ------------ ---- K300 K555 1933
T prefix Trojan wood body 1934-1937.
Number range Year ------------ ---- T100 T2999 1934-1936 T3000 1937
Z prefix, other wood body Nationals 1934-1936.
Number range Year ------------ ---- Z100 Z2050 1934,1935 Z2051 1936
Serial Numbers, 1936 to 1941 (Chicago series). From 1936 to 1942, a single series is used for all instruments with different prefix letters.
A-series 1936-1938 (not to be confused with A-series bakelite neck Triolians).
Number range Year ------------ ---- A1 A999 1936 A1000 A6210 1937 A6211 A8550 1938
1937 Duolian with "B" series serial number.
B-series 1936-1937.
Number range Year ------------ ---- B1 B1475 1936 B1476 B3550 1937
C-series 1937-1939 (not to be confused with C-series Duolians of 1931-1935).
Number range Year ------------ ---- C100 C1475 1937 C1476 C4650 1938 C4651 C5750 1939
L-series 1938-1939.
Number range Year ------------ ---- L9800 L10000 1938 L10070 L10199 1939
1934 14 fret open peghead Duolian with gold frosted Duco finish. This was a special series "G" serial number that went from G100 to G200 (approximately). These special "G" serial numbers were different from the 1940-1941 "G" series serial numbers.
G-series 1940-1943.
Number range Year ------------ ---- G-100 G-199 1940 200G 4450G 1940, 1941 4451G and up 1942, 1943-1947
The serial number plate as used on all Valco-made National guitars from 1940 to 1964. This "X" serial number designates this as 1956.
Serial Number Plates 1940-1964. Beginning in 1940, National/Valco serial numbers were on a small oblong metal plate (brass or aluminum). This plate was tacked to the back of the neck with two small brass nails. The following serial numbers apply to all Valco-made National instruments, including lapsteels and guitars. These plates were also put on amplifiers. All Valco-made instruments were numbered this way till 1964. Valco also made instruments for Sears (Silvertone), Montgomery Wards (Airline), Gretsch, Oahu and others. These are numbered with the same metal tag system.
Number range Year ------------ ---- G suffix 1940-1942 V100 V7500 1947 V7500 V15000 1948 V15000 V25000 1949 V25000 V35000 1950 V35000 V40000 1951 X100 X7000 1951 X7000 X17000 1952 X17000 X30000 1953 X30000 X43000 1954 X43000 X57000 1955 X57000 X71000 1956 X71000 X85000 1957 X85000 X99000 1958 T100 T5000 1958 T5000 T25000 1959 T25000 T50000 1960 T50000 T75000 1961 T75000 T90000 1962 G100 G5000 1962 T90000 T99000 1963 G5000 G15000 1963 G15000 G40000 1964
"1-" foil serial number, as used from 1964 to 1968.
Serial Number Stickers 1964-1968. In 1964, National/Valco replaced the metal serial number plate with a rectangular foil sticker. Stickers have numeric prefixes.
Prefix Year Range ------ ---------- 1 1964 to early 1968 2 early to mid 1968
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